Press J to jump to the feed. Why could they be the suspect. Now it looks like they were and by this fat pedo. The amount of weapons he is carrying give him the appearance of weighing more than he does, and to me it makes he seem older than his real age, jmo. No way. Thats huge for a DNA case, Bluestine, a law professor at Temple University, said. Just for the sake of argumentis it possible as someone mentioned upthread that it could possibly have been someone they met online that they were meeting up with to hang out? Holy shit! Those trails are where kids went. Another key piece of the puzzle that investigators have released is that they believe the man who murdered Libby and Abby was either from Delphi or was familiar with Delphi either because he works there or has other connections. DELPHI | Libby German's sister hopes Twitter can help find her killer, "(We) thought we were going to get the clues that we needed and be done with this in four or five days," ISP Detective Jerry Holeman told RTV6 in 2019. To me, it sounds like he approached them, got their attention with Guys? and then showed a gun. LE were deeply traumatized by the crime scene. During the conference, Carter said police believe the killer has local ties and shockingly claimed that the killer could even be sat in the room with them. Ona Judge, The Story Of The Slave Who Escaped Washington's Plantation, The Monstrous Crimes Of The Dorothea Puente, The "Death House Landlady", What Stephen Hawking Thinks Threatens Humankind The Most, 27 Raw Images Of When Punk Ruled New York, Join The All That's Interesting Weekly Dispatch. Diabolical. She graduated to lead roles but almost exclusively in "B"films. It seems like a very bold murder when it's about controlling two people. The Innocent Project has been successful in overturning some murder convictions, mostly because of new DNA evidence that points away from the defendant. Q. Who is looking at who, and why do they think the person being looked at is the killer? For some reason i cant remember if this has ever been confirmed - but did both girls have scarves around their necks at the funerals??? If ithe Bridge Man was someone in law enforcement, the girls may have initially trusted him and acted with compliance if he showed his badge. Thats why they were killed in such a brutal way. I never wanted children and dont even like them but this case really bothers me. I really wonder if this case would have looked different if the families had been wealthy rather than dirt poor. It was very suspect, imo. I dont think theres multiple pieces of the puzzle. The link below is for the big informative tattoo comparison thread. Yeah creepy. Chadwell was in prison for 13 years and he worked on bridges. Leigh Kerrs new postings are contradictory to me - religious yet sexual tableau.. I still keep thinking that it probably was Chadwell. Datalounge is glitchy latelyone minute Im one threadthen Im in another. Sgt. The only way we will resolve to gain justice for Abby and Libby, for their respective families and our caring community, is to remain dedicated to the preservation of said integrity. he's clearly a fucked up guy and needs to be convicted of crimes against the girl they found. DNA found at the scene may or may not be connected to the murderer. Along with the new sketch, police also updated their description of the suspect to be a man between 18 and 40 years old, who could appear much younger than he actually is. R107 That is revolting. Im assuming the killer found out she had it and tried to destroy it and it was found in the water? Bluestine, of the Innocence Project, said that cases in which the strongest, or only, piece of evidence is a defendants confession are many times the ones that are later shown to be wrongful prosecutions. 679215 Registered office: 1 London Bridge Street, London, SE1 9GF. The second Delphi murders photo, though blurry, does seem to show someone wearing a dark jacket similar to the one in the suspects photo, though police are hesitant to make any statements about this, and subsequently, have not commented on this matter. I'm sure the Police know more. R384- STOP TRYING TO MAKE CHADWELL HAPPEN Why do you gaf, you creepy asshole. James Brian Chadwell has a tie to Peru, IN where fat pedo lives. It could be a stun gun? Anybody here know anything about that? Maybe the families meant that the girls going to the bridge that day was not due to being specifically catfished on that day. Police, including West Chester Detective Carl Durnell, and Chester County Detectives Frank Judge and L. Dyer Henley, had focused their attentions on Garnett soon after Delphis body was found in the creek on April 4, 1971, a month after her disappearance. The chief Delphi murders suspect appears to be middle-aged, with reddish-brown hair. In the film Wild for Kicks (1960), despite having dialogue and performing a task crucial to the plot, both her name and that of her character, Greta, are missing from the film's closing credits. On Saturday, March 18, 1972, Garnett was convicted of first-degree murder. Died: April 11, 2002 (20 years Ago), HomeTown: London, England, United Kingdom. No way. The music was so loud it overpower the interviews and narratives. a hair, a skin sample from nails, just SOMETHING. I feel like the girls would have maybe tried to flirt or talk to a younger guy. These were produced by information gained from witnesses near the area during time frame. One thing I believe is that he targeted only one of the girls. A. But i'm hoping they have some sort of DNA evidence or something they haven't released to public that would pin this on him. R68- Yes. The guy in the video is way older. HLN is airing a 2-night documentary based on the hit podcast, Feb 14 & 15. R474 They recently (1 mo ago?) There are lots of close-ups of his jacket and I see an outline of a gun in his right pocket area. I think LE has bungled it from the start. "Directly to the killer, who may be in this room: We believe youre hiding in plain sight," Carter said. Does anyone else remember this?? I care about this case and am so angry that someone has gotten away with it for this long. A. A true cold case provides no leads, no information to follow into. (R48) On reddit a women is claiming to have images of one little girl, deceased of course. Some people think it could be the same guy who killed Lyric Cook and Elizabeth Collins. It's a dangerous bridge with rotting slats of wood that you have to look at and be careful stepping on. But he didnt. I couldn't read the replies to that post so maybe s/he did in later posts. See full bio Born: The crimes are very similiar. They were on another phone.". causes.". [quote] We don't like when people start threads with a daily mail link. She took a photo of the old guy with her cell phone because he was acting odd. I think this is our guy. They have loud piano music drowning out the grandmother right now. Durnell said that initially, Garnett told them he had nothing to do with Delphis death. If you see something that doesnt look right, Contact Us. She appeared as Vera Charles in various touring productions of Mame, opposite such stars as SusanHayward, CelesteHolm, AnnSothern, and JulietProwse playing the lead role (Mame Dennis). Such a smart little girl. I mean proof is right in this story of what could happen. The Story Of The Unsolved Delphi Murders And The Chilling Video Evidence Left Behind. No one has ever talked. There is no reason, it should haven taken 5 years to solve this. Guys, down the hill.-FUCK YOU, MAN! Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. R383, It was Libby's older sister, Kelsi, who agreed to it. What happened to the girls doesn't have to have been "freaky" to upset people, just finding them partly clothed or nude and dead, possibly posed, would be bad enough. Posters have pointed out that Bridge Guy appears to be trying to hide behind a tall, skinny tree that is camera right to the photo of Abby crossing the bridge. I just finished part II. This case haunts me. These girls owed drug miney? If the killer(s) were local, it would only take about 3 minutes to get to the bridge. In cases where there were found to have been wrongful convictions, she said, 51 percent involved detailed, but false, confession. That tattoo alone should convict his sick ass, imo. I think theres one piece. I thought well, maybe most women have nails like that and Ive just never noticed. Police arrested Garnett on April 9, 1971, five days after Delphi was found. It's currently unclear whether police believe the two girls met with the creator of the account. The killer may have been an 'enforcer' for someone to whom a parent owed a debt. There is speculation about 2 men in a white rental car with phony paper license plates that were spotted near the bridge. The man on the bridge could have one of those builds that some fat men do - the fat is all above the waist, they have weird barrel chests and big bellies and chubby faces but skinny arms and legs. height, weight, hair color, eye color), Specific Vehicle Descriptions (i.e. IF that all is true, it suggests pre-planning involving multiple people. There had to have been a sexual component, whether they were sexually assaulted or not. They do say it..a couple of them summarize it. The search for Libby and Abby resumed on Valentines Day morning, Feb. 14, 2017. They have no evidence to tie this guy on audio or the video other than snippets of poor quality. If it predates the Delphi murders, it's likely someone he "memorialized". They were a couple who killed children in the 60's in England. What a fucking monster. Hope to hell I am wrong. Indiana State Police Sgt. He actually does look like a blend of both. He did not elaborate on any details about the investigation into Chadwell. Q. The comic book fan base world is quite homophobic, yes? Unlike other old cases, they were not disposed of because Garnett had continued to appeal his conviction. Just that I assume he was some sort of transient. Investigators have released two grainy images from that video that shows a man were to believe was behind the girls on that bridge, a short clip of that man walking, an audio recording of a man presumably the same one saying Guys. Who knows if it was the real Kokomo Pastor JDW. I cant say theres not a threat to the community, Indiana State Police Sgt. It has been well established that BG is the killer. You have to wonder if amateur cyber sleuths are more of a hindrance than a help. I thought she was too, OP, but in that image she is in a sitting position against a tree. I finally turned on my CC and muted the tv. I remember when this happened, and thinking that they would have someone in no time. Desperate. . He spent a lot of time outdoors, even camping under a bridge, and he's clearly a psychopath even if it's not him. Convened a new task force that had its own bldg and then this. There have been texts on Reddit for years now. Take your conspiracies back to reddit. READ | A look at the property where two missing teen girls were found dead. And its having one individual with the strength to say that was my brother, thats my dad, or thats my cousin, thats my neighbor, my co-worker. That cant be common. He could know the area and not be from there. The child had bite marks from his pitbull. The primary focus by investigators is on the second sketch. Here was an app that allowed me to do that without having to go visit locations, he told the Indy Star. And some of the ones who still haven't been caught: r291 - the current POI looks very good for it. She was educated at Halidon House School in Slough, Berkshire, whilst living in Colnbrook. In October, police announced that Richard Allen, 50, of Delphi, was arrested and charged with two counts of murder in the deaths of Libby and Abby. Am looking for the photos and came across this. Thats good I think. As per the report, Delphi Lawrence lives in. sounds pretty close to "down the hill, guys" voice. There's video of Chadwell in 2016 with the tattoo already on his arm, r388. She was an actress, known for The Man Who Could Cheat Death (1959), The Man Who Finally Died (1959) and The Avengers (1961). He said he offered to take her home and try to help, but that his stepfather overruled him. It would have echoed in the woods far and wide. but i think this guy is the guy. A second sketch was released at the press conference held on April 22, 2019. And even if it was payback for something drug related, it would be a clean execution. If sexual assault wasn't the motive, the motive must have been something else we're not aware of - such as a payback for a parent's debt. Just let us hear it. YouTubeAbby Williams and Libby German, the victims of the Delphi murders. R345, we already established that the tattoo was on his arm before the Delphi murders. More than two years later, on April 22, 2019, Indiana State Police released a new piece of audio that is a slightly extended version of the initial clip and includes the word Guys followed by Down the Hill.. The window was right next to the door, the only light coming into the room. I wish I could remember who said it and where I heard it, but there was an interview with someone who had worked on the case and he mentioned how badly affected people he worked with had been by what they saw at the crime scene. He's wearing several layers of clothes including a hoodie and has stuff tucked under his jacket. That is an extremely rare height, isn't it? Law enforcement, when they hold back information its not to keep the public in the dark it really is to help benefit the case, Holes said in 2019. only psychoes believe what he "makes up". The only two options arent they did it and they know who did it. I think this thread has a link to the helicopter photos. That would also account for his careful, hesitate gait, as well as the condition of the bridge, as you correctly pointed out. Get serious. It bothered me that another child would have to be hurt, possibly killed to solve this crime. LOL! I'm from Australia and expressed my sympathy and hope that the murderer/s would be caught swiftly. BTW, motiveless (or seemingly motiveless) killings by strangers have always been harder to solve than ones committed by someone the victim knows. I hope I'm just seeing things and nothing that horrific happened to the girls. Stop. You've seen too many movies. Anyone following this case (and this thread) should check out the podcast: Murder Sheet. "Catching this guy is my main goal in life right now. I believe it was from a first responder. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. On Reddit they speculate its Abby, but i thought she was supposed to have been laying down. But still killing two teenage girls who decided at the last minute to take an unadvertised hike? I live in Indiana and LE mentioned at one time the girls were controlled by the mans dogs and the bodies had bite marks. The victim was found a few 100 yards from the lot. I hadnt read about that case. This case has really bothered me that someone got away with doing this. They said that Bridge Guy seen in Libby's video we've seen isn't necessarily the man who said, "Down the hill, guys", In the audio after the portion that we've seen and heard, there is more that we haven't seen & heard - Libby asks Abby if the creepy guy is still there. One girl in particular took the brunt of the attack. Same build, coloring, age of victims. What was the other one? Abby was collateral damage. She wasn't there, and she doesn't know. When they now began to answer his inquiries, he learned another reason why they had been so close-lipped. They are really pushing this guy for some reason. If it was neck injuries then it's likely knife or wire, or both. As someone who has known drug dealers, there are no owsies in that world. Abby Williams and Libby German, the victims of the Delphi murders. I don't think he was less than 30. It's creepy but it's not of one of the victims. Indiana State Police previously said that autopsies were carried out on the two girls but officials declined to disclose a cause or time of death for either girl, and refused to confirm whether DNA evidence was recovered from the scene. She is not dating anyone. R199 Interesting take. You will lose all power. It was made to look like a posed corpse, imo. What I dont get is where was the phone? Delphi Lawrence was born on March 23, 1932 in London, United Thanks R77. I truly thought this was a crime of opportunity. Right jacket pocket. As far as I've heard. Lawrence says he has begun asking questions about his sisters murder and the case against Garnett in order to learn the truth about what happened after so many years of being kept in the dark about the matter. R153 The recording Liberty German made, yeah. Hope we have answers soon. "We realized that this is a totally different type of investigation.. Keeping track of those tips is a major undertaking. In the thread, a poster has made several Photoshop images that show how the photo of Liberty used on the Missing posters matches up with a creepy tattoo on the guy's arm. I think that a new investigator was put on the case of the Delphi Murders in April 2020. Investigators say the more information a tipster can give them, the better, because the more information they can enter into the system the more potential connections can be made and checked. Years active. Our first cousin.. The only other reveals were that the video is 40 - some seconds long and it ends with the guys down the hill. They also have had subsequent interviews with people who know this father and son team. This is as messed up as the JonBenet Ramsey murder. That's got to be the guy. What is that about? I didnt see him again that night. Give Light and the People Will Find Their Own Way, Indianapolis, IN Interactive Weather Radar, Libby German's sister hopes Twitter can help find her killer, A look at the property where two missing teen girls were found dead, ISP call Liberty German a 'hero' for capturing audio, photos of suspect. The other girl just got caught in the cross hairs. I agree with the poster who said hes done this before. The bridge is scary, and no way as an adult i would walk across it, but at 13 and 14 years old, i would have. She was an actress, known for The Man Who Could Cheat Death (1959), The Man Who You have all of the money at the point of sale. Kids should be allowed to have some adventures. Imo, and made one cooperate by threatening to kill her friend if she did not obey him. The physical similarities are pretty striking between BG and PB, that's true. No. don't in any way contradict the date of the murders. That sketch, which appears to be of an entirely different person, is now believed to be the main person of interest in the murders of Libby and Abby. It is, she said, a truly interesting case.. The cryptic pressers and subsequent lack of information mimics this finger-pointing tragedy to Twilight Zones The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street. We don't have much information about She's past relationship and any previous engaged. Delphi Lawrence (23 March 1932 11 April 2002) was an English actress. Praying for justice for the victim and families. He did everything to appear like a successful law student and volunteered in political circles. There is part of the video of one of the girls reactions that haunts one of the investigators. This isnt him. Local news reports in 2018 discuss the frustrating lack of answers in the Delphi murders case. I have to read a little and then back off for awhile. That thread was very interesting. They're probably going to kill you anyway. For more than two years. I think he also got a sick thrill knowing how shocked and horrified they would be to see that. Ive always thought it was some rando lucky-psycho that day. [bold]He doesn't have to be from the area.[/bold]. Therein lies the problem, r415they must not have any DNA evidence. Forgive me if someone already said this: if the girls knew the killer they would have said his name and it would have been recorded by her phone during the attack. My impression just from the photo and his recording is that hes middle aged, has a fairly decent job, knew what he was doing and was comfortable, has pretty good taste in clothes, not a slob, people wouldnt suspect him, has a boat. It was one of precious few updates on the Delphi murders since the initial investigation. . Could LE find the ISP of the profile's creator? 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