My only regret is that it opens up Cathy Tweed to cruel second-guessing by people like you. Mr. Tweed was born in Greeneville, TN and son of James W. "Buddy" & Nora O. For now, we cant expect many resources from Tyler Tweeds family as they are not in the right mood to describe Tyler Tweeds death. Im sure you know that there are other religions that dont believe in medical treatment, either and that this is actually a matter of freedom of religion. Marvin Ernest Seibold. Attention whore and trying to look like the good guy. On the broader perspective of exes and whistleblowers who have sufficient experience within the churches or Orgs to know the policies and tech points that motivate and guide the group effort, as well as the counselling and training points that create the graduated indoc into the subject and benefits across the dynamics,,, i find it very curious that a situation is created that these would have the need to go to external and non scn sources in order to get justice or warn others ,,, Its telling me that the wisdom and purpose of the subject matter contained in books and lectures is being sidelined for the purpose of enforcing attitudes and behaviours in a very careless and stupid manner. The youngest son of Ethel Mummert and Harve Mummert, Tweed lived all of his life in the Macomb area. And how does the Church feel about psychiatry and receiving psychiatric treatment? They are quite outspoken about the barbaric psyches and the treatment of the mentally ill, yet, they will have nothing to do with the mentally ill. A lot of criticisms, but no solutions. Bullshit. She shared over 62 loving years of marriage with husband John L . Did you read those letters and watched those videos as well so as to have a more balanced viewpoint on the scenario? Scnists readily adopt these views as their own, which may result in a delay in proper medical treatment. `Anyone who knowingly follows a man like Hubbard deserves exactly what they get. For his hat or role as a psychotherapist he is expected to be trained and properly licensed. Progress Remini and Rinder's exploitation of Tayler's death prompted her mother to write to A&E, stating "I am horrified that A&E and Leah Remini are exploiting for financial gain the tragic death of my daughter Tayler Tweed who died by suicide three years ago. Some ppl have questioned the fact that Taylers friend was the one speaking out and I can see why. In other words where something is merely thought to be a slight sprain, to be on the safe side an X-ray should be obtained, particularly if it does not at once respond. I WAS THERE. But first of all, what is meant by mentally ill? This test (questionnaire, which was mostly done unmetered) was usually done by me, as I was kind of famous for spotting troublemakers even without the e-meter, and on the spot. My local AO wouldnt deliver this, instead either hat a family member, or turn it over to a field auditor.. https://tonyortega.org/2016/04/28/a-scientologist-heading-for-suicide-the-missing-tayler-tweed-facebook-postings/. With adults, I think its a slippery slope to tell them what they should or should not believe in and practice. But this was something done kind of offlines, you know, where both the ED and me knew, that if we fucked it up, it was only our heads that would be cut. Theyre presenting one side, and especially in this case, doing it in a very exploitative and manipulative way. You are not the victim in this story, there is only one. Ok, got it, and I am sorry for the long comm lag in replying. At my org, this acted as a huge invalidation for quite a few individuals who protested about the looong running of processes disregarding any cognitions except the very specific and arbitrary ones decided by DM out of his own misinterpretation of the Tech. That point aside, what you say in the following about the church is really the basic and most important issue at stake: If auditors were licensed, then they could not forbid people from getting the medical treatment they need without losing their license.. May 23, 2021 This is Taylor Tweed's mother and brother speaking out about how they feel about Taylor's suicide being featured on A&E's Scientology and the Aftermath. Ill check that out too. So far, she has not handled the PR issues correctly, and by correctly I dont mean to lie or hide the truth. Obituary Marjorie Tweed Davis, 77, of Black Mountain, passed away Thursday, November 12, 2020. This is pathetic and sad. Lila will be intered beside her husband Dan, at St. Carthagh's Cemetery, Tweed, on Saturday, November 20 at 1 PM CASSIBO: Agnes Theresa, at Belmont Long Term Care, Belleville, on October 15, 2021. I enjoy the show. Jimmy Carl Richardson. Mr. Ricky Dale Tweed, age 54, Telford, passed away Wednesday, August 13, 2014 from injuries sustained in an automobile accident. in a process because allegedly she still had not voiced the correct EP. "Tweed" Mummert passed away at McDonough District Hospital on January 3rd, just 3 weeks shy of his 98 th birthday. OBITUARY William L Tweed May 23, 1919- November 25, 2012 IN THE CARE OF Skyline Memorial Gardens and Funeral Home William Leslie Tweed 23 May 1919, Portland Oregon - 25 Nov 2012 Portland Oregon Son of Otto Tweed and Esther Nathalia (Carlson) Tweed In 1962 he became a pattern maker when he went to work at Dependable Pattern Works. We let them do courses, but not to get processed, until some evidence of case stability was evident. People are doxxing Cathy Tweed online. The only related reference I know of concerns those who have had psychiatric drugs or who have been institutionalized. You do know that the nazis invaded countries and built concentration camps, right? Can be really call that a Desire at reformation? Now that Ive checked, my memory was incorrect. Sure. Dont get me wrong, She is a GREAT artist, and she seems to be a GREAT lady. Its just sad that after being the first to demean her own daughter online that she now wants to cry wolf at those who criticize her for being a less than worthy mother to her own child. I witnessed how badly and uncompassionate their originations as to feeling overrun were handled by uncaring Course sups. Yeah, THANK YOU, Laura. Uhmmm, makes me wonder.. Naturopaths? He should know of quite a few of these stories after all. Are we that naive so as to negate that her Fight against the abuses HAS been very helpful for her career? With that being said, lets further investigate the truth and details of Tyler Tweed Obituary. Part of the questionnaire, included questions to locate what was called Illegal PCs as per the ILLEGAL PCS, ACCEPTANCE OF HIGH CRIME BULLETIN PL. Then you have the standard Scn reference covering EVERYTHING about Assists (Scientology physical healing type of processes) and how to go about it if a PC (Preclear the one undergoing Scientology counseling) gets sick. I told you this little story, so that others here understand that not ALL of us were uncompassionate and ignorant of how to REALLY help someone. This isnt to be interpreted as meaning that there are no LRHs policies that by themselves, unadulterated in any way, are destructive enough so as to make it a necessity to just get rid of them; we have just too many of those. This is what we need, being fair and balanced, and showing both sides of the coin while remaining compassionate to all sides. She was despondent about being alone for the holidays. This is what I call being fair to all sides!! I think they do just fine but I do not expect them to get everything right. Your comment was interesting to me. Its similar to families who bring their kids up seeming to dote on them, but murder them in an honor killing lately. He has even been used as an expert witness in several court cases of psychiatry abuses : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Breggin, Gee, I think that David Miscavige ought to hire me as his spoke person, instead of that lawer of his, who I feel that a little training in correct public relations, would be a good thing for her to consider, . We are currently puzzled about how Tyler Tweed died. Again, its a matter of freedom of religion as well as separation of church and state. Is that an habit of yours to believe in everything you see presented in a TV show, even when no actual facts are presented? You dont know me. In my pre Miscavige time I looked at scn as a form of psychology and self improvement. With your response here, I really have a hard believing you know anything about suicide at all. Yes Ms Tweed-we need kindness, love and respectwell said. Thats why I was a squirrel who seldom followed LRH to the letter. If people come to me and are not ready to abandon their fathers, mothers, wives, children, brothers, and sisters, as well as their own lives, they cannot be my disciples.. Rest in Peace Taylor, I will always remember you as a firecracker and kindhearted soul who wanted to save the world. No one organization is to blame for this. Her family tried to handle and began to disconnect, leaving Tayler very much adrift. Lets follow your logic with an analogy, shall we? And that it then forbids its parishioners from trying out medications is actually, literally, dangerous for Scientologists who suffer from depression. Her funeral service took place at Saskatoon Funeral Home, 338 4th Ave North, on Monday, October 25, 2021 at 1:00 pm. Only a fucking Scientologist who believes they've had millions of daughters and families throughout the last 75 trillion years would be just fucking fine with losing "one lost soul" amongst the many you've had. The first time Tony reported on Tayler Tweed was from a phone conversation with her mother the day after her daughters funeral. October 11, 1970 - February 26, 2023. Ive seen and been told of quite a few parents who seemed to love their kids but wouldnt speak with them. Remove (or reform, or rehabilitate) such individual form the scenario, and sanity will find its way in again, I guarantee you that. I dont know about you, but for me, that sounds more like one of those conspiracy theories that people LOVE to hold on to, to ease their boredom. VERY high. Humans CAN change if only we love them hard enough so as to be able to overcome our own bias (I have a TON myself, haha), lack of sensitiveness and compassion, and our desires for punishment and revenge. Pseudoscientists in Scientology? I fully agree; the church in general, need to become more compassionate. If they were, their approach in the show would be different, and they would be more careful with the facts and about not making generalizations out of a few instances and stereotyping the Scientologists in general. She states that she did take her daughter to doctors, but what kind of doctors? Because medical science has advanced since the publication of Science of Survival (66 years), and because these advancements save peoples lives, then it is extremely unethical even from the perspective of a Scientologist to forbid these treatments after everything else has been tried. Rights to practice your religious beliefs are legally protected in the US even though they might go against some peoples moral codes, or even the moral (not.legal) codes of of the larger culture around them. But you strawmanned the topic perfectly, refusing to answer. Select a region on the map to view notices in your chosen area. Apparently it was a policy set by Hubbard that one needed to find out about any health issues and then get it or them taken care of before starting this course. But, no one who watches a documentary, should walk away and think they know everything about the subject matter. I was actually picturing Paul Haggis when I typed Alex Gibney. Its certainly an argument I am open to how so? In my mind, at least the point about freedom of religion did relate to Cathy Tweed. Douglas farmed from the age of 14 until retirement in 1999 on the Tweed Century Farm in rural Sand Creek. I agree with most of your points that you have discussed with Alanzo, except for the above one. But we assure you that we will provide the factual details when we are informed. We must become auditors TO THEM if we are to expect any reformations to happen. But the rest of the post was about trashing it all as he ALWAYS DO. None of which appeared in scientology and the aftermath or in Tony Ortega s earlier reporting. I dont necessarily doubt that a person can benefit from medical treatment for brain illnesses. This kind of cruelty is strewn throughout the anti-Scientology community right now, including fans of Scientology and the Aftermath, because that kind of cruel second-guessing was built right into the episode you watched. Absolutely. Most abuses in Scientology happened (with the exception of children who of course, have not enough will power) because people AGREED to being abused. A&E's teaser for the upcoming episode shows a picture of my beautiful daughter." I am tired the shit of you guys. . Unless your experience results in greater tolerance and compassion and wisdom for suicide survivors what good is it? If I were to drop dead in the sauna then the cult could say, Well he passed his physical exam by a medical doctor. But the second time was before another cycle of action. I think A&E should interview Cathy Tweed and give her time on their network after what has been done to her. The whole diatribe about spreading hate is something someone says because they dont like the message. He doesnt take responsibility for the fact that it was HIM the one who got them into Scn in the first place, but now he just think of them as brainwashed, mind controlled, imprisoned, and having no free will to decide on their own. This makes me absolutely sad You are saying that you were taking your daughter to doctors when Scientologist dont believe in doctors she should have went to a therapist and got help when she needed it !!. Depression can result in death. So there are these areas such as child labor and blocking access to medical care where I believe critics can legitimately point out criminality by scientology and try to get the government to act. Of course, that I dont mean that, neither. I think the important baseline to keep in mind is the law. Ah, and here is the information about Dr. Breggin. The guy is NUTS, I thought. MARSHALL - Tyler S. Tweed, age 24, passed away unexpectedly on Wednesday, December 14, 2022, in Iowa. Looking for Tayler Tweed? This aspect of Hubbard and Scn always irked me. Lets add it to our prayer that Tyler Tweeds family is added with more courage to tolerate Tyler Tweed loss. About not showing compassion when one former member of the religion (or whatever group for that matter) has suffered a loss or any abuse, regardless if the group in question is guilty of or not of such abuses or losses. This show wasnt about Kathy Tweed! Yet the chiros survived for the simple reason they did help people, often much better than doctors. Now, it is TRUE as in ANY freaking group in society that there ARE some Scientologists that get very fundamentalistic about this, and go to the fucking extremes. , Good point, I give you that! Why do you think that Cathy Tweed would not second guess herself every single day? They told this story. That Scientology limits its treatment to exercise, PTS handlings and vitamins is very suppressive. Perhaps no more than a 70-80% of the time, I did followed LRH, , Getting back on trackwhat could the church do to reform this aspect of their religion (if were to believe Mike and Leah)? Yes. Not that unmuzzled stupid handling from the Instrospection Rundown. He was a member of Mt. I think the painting she made of Tayler is beautiful and I hope she gets a whole bunch of new business from the show. This is always a liability for anyone seeking the truth. Now, looked at from the above clarifications, do you still feel the same way about it? A less loaded example of this principle is what happened with chiropractors. This is not about leaving the so called church, it is about the stupidity of joining and believing. Nobody does. Charles Cain. What are you going to say? Heads are replaceable, haha. Publicly accept when any wrongdoing has occurred. And that is their right, IMO. I highly doubt that Cathy Tweed would allow that. Scn, as an activity, is very much self-centered; and VERY focused on the able (e.g. Shar, did you even took the time to read my looong post at this thread?? Id like to know what some experienced tech people have to say on the subject. About personally attacking the dissenters and the critics, instead of specifically dealing with the veracity or lack thereof of their statements or claims. This is about ending the abuses as Mike and Leah are trying to get us to believe. No more complex than that really. Butlets go get tattoos so we can feel better about it. But I realized that he just DIDNT care if others were invalidating a Scientologist left and right, as long as the attacks werent too viscous or too repetitive from one specific poster. By the end of October, she said she was DONE with Scientology. Of course, know and not know are the same words that are on the Know to Mystery Scale with Know at the top, and in order to get there you have to go through Not-Know. C) Getting the person to move to a non stressful environment and to temporarily get away from hostile people and environments. He often would refer to the body as a second class citizen, or imply it was a trap; that you need to grab it by the scruff of the neck and take charge. Sorry, Al. Its just sad. Finally, someone has told the REAL story..the Church of Scientology did NOTHING to help this poor girlit cast her out. Yeah, Dave Luck, thats a very sad truth indeed! http://whyweprotest.wikia.com/wiki/Scientology_Suicides#The_dead_cannot_tell_us. I noticed the same thing about how the staff was being turned into uncaring individuals by the implementation programs enforced by DM. Tyler Tweed Obituary - Death: In Loving Memory of Tyler Tweed: According to an online obituary on Friday, December 16, 2022, Tyler Tweed has passed away unexpectedly. It is unnatural. My God, and you dare criticize Scientologists by their alleged lack of compassion? In this light, it appears The Aftermath has but one goal: To rain upon the church so much bad PR that the public is repulsed. AGAIN Claire, you sre ASSUMING that just because a THIRD PARTY who has ABSOLUTELY no personal knowledge of such events but mostly through hearsay not backed up by ANY texts of FB posts, ANYTHING is saying so. Those 5 premises inductively lead to conclude that Mike Rinder is NOT after reformation, but after punishment and revenge because his family DECIDED ON THEIR OWN to disconnect from him, but he blames DM for it. By the way, I found two videos that Cathy Tweed and a friend of hers uploaded to youtube a couple of years ago as a memorial to Tayler. Must be Hurracaine Irma! 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